The Bible, Weapon of Desperate [Folder/Base] [ref, ]

Arguing about the Bible and what it is; excluding from this analysis the meaning of the matter:

  1. The Bible is a Weapon of Desperates. Idea/Doctrine Description.
  2. The Bible is the Word of God. If we assume that God is perfect He must provide his creation (a System) of a Guide/Tutorial/User Manual and the Bible is that perfect Manual.

  1. The Bible is a Weapon of Desperates

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  1. What about Melhola Saulo. 2nd Kings 6:23; 2nd Kings 21:18
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  1. God made him against Israel ppl (2nd Kings 24:1) but : Satan made him against Israel ppl (1st Chronicles 21:1) So... how to decide than?
  2. Who was Maria's Husband and Father of Iosif? Jacob (Mat 1:16) Elijah ( Luk 3:23)
  1. R: This is making reference to “the house” the descendance. son 3. any male descendant: a son of the Aztecs.

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  1. 101 uncorrented moments

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  1. The Bible is the Word of God

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  1. If God is Perfect. He could do perfect things and creatures. Manual can be element of imperfection. Perfect stuff doesn't need any manual. It is Perfect from beginning to the end. If it is guidable and providable it means it doesn't have full base of knowledge of own behaviour. But maybe this stuff doesn't need it either. ANy manual and instruction can just confuse and make more problems. The serious question here is “What Perfection is...”
  2. The people can and has modified the Bible and the Manual should not be modified
  3. We need declaration what will satisfy life of all groups of ppl no care of his religion, social level, money etc 
  4. n Ancient flying TransportWhere is the Proves that Bible is Word of God? Who can nowadays contact God and ask him this? Keisi could do it in the 20 ctntury. He was student of Christian School. And had Gift from Heaven. He could read mind, see Future and connect to Universe Knowledge Base as Nicola Tesla Could… some kind of Universal Internet Servers. He told about angels and demosn. He told about soul and reincornation. But what can we see in his speech? Maybe ANgels and Demons are High Advanced civilisations. If we talk about Islam - we can see that Muhamed gone to the Sky by the Green Beam on the winged Horse. WHat is it? Pegasis? I think NO… This is Anti-Gravitation Beam or Electromagnetic field. Nowadays scientists created laser what can push and pull things and stuff. About winged Horse - that could be some kind of Vivern()
  1. R: If this is making reference that we can’t Ask God in these days for the specification, If we assume that the Bible is that Manual the argument makes no sense due to the fact that the Bible specifies that God has approached to us several times, and it makes no difference to us. He rather leave the Book behind so everyone that wanted to ask can ask the Book if needed. He also provided it with some divine attributes that will back the book up.

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  1. Check this on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUzlhMWYSTg

This is really a priority, you can't argue about something that yo u do not know what it is. It is necessary for this discussion to define  "Bible"

It does not mention 'Melhola Saulo'  :S I think they are not even related :S I don't know what are you talking about :S.

I cant see where God made whom(?) against Israel ppl :S. Did you actually read the passage?

Oh!! I'm guessing you are talking about Saul right? If you are assuming that this is an imperfection I guess you need to read the explanation of this kind of pattern that appears all along the Bible that is in the Book of Job. (If you want to talk about this we can)

Oh no! you were talking about the "number" of Israel (In Ex 30:12), as I said this is a pattern...

I should put this as a rebuttal but I'm not sure if you are referring to this...

I have never heard Jesus being called like this.. can you confirm that you are making reference to him?

Jesus and Melhola? Melhola is women in Bible texts

I was asking if you can confirm that you are referring to Jesus when you say "Iosif" and if you want to clarify the name "Melhola" too, please do :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iosif

In case of Joseph is obviously a little bit different but you get the point

I don't know what "uncorrented" means, but I'm guessing that you are referring to inconsistencies?.. or something like that?

yeah inconsistences

Where are they supposed to be?

we clearly have a problem of definition of "the Bible"

I don't understand why do you think that the Bible does not fit this parameters.

Well.. what about Rich? what about ppl who likes to sleep with women? Likes to War?

what about them :S is for them too :S

But how? if Bible says: U shouldnt kill... War liking ppl will do it with pleasure.. how to satisfy them?

ppl who doesnt like to work and want to rob.. how about them?

We should punish them or destroy?

well, what you mean is that every part of the system have to like the manual or tutorial, and I will strongly disagree :D. but everything has to be explained in there (or the main use at least) to be considered a manual (and we can discuss about if the elements of the system liked or not or are happy with it latter right?

Sorry.. I didnt understand? What about system parts?

All this began with a

metaphor of the Systems that we create (programs) and the System that God created (this world) I'm just making reference in to the same metaphor again in your replay to respond it :)

The central part is that I disagree with this declaration: "We need declaration what will satisfy life of all groups" The manual does not have to satisfy anyone, but rather it has to ADDRESS everyone. In the case of the Bible it does, It says what will happen to each one of us, even if we don't like it.

Im sry I couldn't get the point can you rephrase? I'm sure it has some orthographic flaws.

[email protected] just to be sure, you suggested this because it seems like a better alternative to the Bible correct?

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